日本語道場
Nihongo Dojo — N3 → N2
N2
~たところで
~ta tokoro de
even if one were to
When to use it
Use ~たところで when you want to concede a hypothetical action but dismiss it as pointless — "even if X were done, it wouldn't help." It is stronger and more resigned than plain ~ても, and the second clause is almost always negative or expresses futility (変わらない・間に合わない・意味がない・とは限らない). Common in reports, negotiation, and written argument where you preempt a course of action as ineffective; frequently reinforced by いくら・どんなに・今から.
Formation
Examples
Even if we rush from here, we won't make the deadline.
Even if I objected, the policy wouldn't change.
Even if we cut the price, there's no guarantee we'd win the order.
No matter how much material we send, it's all the same if it goes unread.
Even a major firm would surely back out on these terms.